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Question:

How can Fediverse be more "private" while also not ruining the experience for those who like things the way they are?

There's already a way to make your posts private so that there's no way for anyone to see them without your permission.**

Could there be another way without destroying discoverability?

I can't think of any, but I'm obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed.

Obviously Mastodon needs to start by removing the RSS feed or make it an option to turn off. As it stands, most people don't even know it's a thing because it's not documented.

Thoughts?

**Besides admins and moderators. They can see everything if they want to, including DMs.

Charlie

@BeAware "How can the fediverse be more private"...

Hang on, let us exchange GPG public keys before we proceed. ;)

@cdp1337 @BeAware

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512

Well, that sounds like a good idea :)
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@Larvitz @BeAware

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@cdp1337 @Larvitz tbh, I'm dumb as hell and don't know how PGP signing works....😳😂

@BeAware @Larvitz In short, each key is in 2 parts; the public and the private.

I (as a third party), can take your public key and use it to encrypt a message that only the matching private key can reveal.

You can also use multiple public keys to encrypt a message, so you can chat with multiple recipients at once.

Signing works on a similar premise, where you can sign a plain text message with your private key, and me (again as a third party), can use your public key to verify the plain text message was not altered.

The main unfortunate part is access to the private key; email clients like Thunderbird support it natively and transparently, (sending/receiving encrypted messages "just works"), but Mastodon being a web application, doesn't have access to your private key, so a desktop app would be required (or a browser plugin would be needed).

@cdp1337 @Larvitz ahh. I see.

Unfortunately, with my ADHD, I feel like I might get confused on which key goes where and who's key is whose. If that makes sense. I'd have to use it with an app that allows me to just see names or usernames and the like...

@BeAware @Larvitz Oh yeah, when I encrypted that message to Larvitz, I just entered their email as the recipient.

Unfortunately I'm not aware of any desktop clients for Mastodon which have native support for this, but that would be an amazing feature for one!

@BeAware @cdp1337 I couldn’t even export my private key accidentally, even if I wanted. It was generated and lives on an OpenPGP Smartcard and cannot be exported from there (by design!). To decrypt the message @cdp1337 wrote me, I had to insert the card and enter its pin in order to let the smartcard decrypt the message.

Of course, GPG keys can also be stored on the computer within files and nowadays there are USB based solutions like the Yubikey and the Nitrokey, which implemented the same protocol but I still use my old GPG cards. (My primary use-case is that I use them for SSH Public Key authentication to my servers and to sign rpm packages for software, I built)

@cdp1337 @BeAware

It did actually work :) But maybe it's not really practical with the current character limit implementation of Mastodon 😆